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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226945911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226945911">(Feb 19 2021 at 10:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've started a rough draft of the announcement blog post (to be released after the RFC has been up for a few days). Feedback is welcome particularly around high-level structure of the post. <a href="https://hackmd.io/@ryanlevick/HJuPXZa-O">https://hackmd.io/@ryanlevick/HJuPXZa-O</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226988304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226988304">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> I'm making comments, but how do you feel about me just editing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226988394" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226988394">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>full confession: I already added some commas.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226988437" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226988437">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm kind of pro-comma</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226988523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226988523">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel that since you speak German, you should appreciate the beauty of a comma</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226989408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226989408">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>Normal brain: who cares about commas?<br>
L2 German speaker brain: let's add commas everywhere!<br>
German brain: commas are a gift from god and must be placed in the exact right places</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990114">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the main question is the audience / purpose of this post</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990126">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I imagined this being for Inside Rust</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990146" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990146">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>kind of telling "rust contributors" a bit about the 2021 edition</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990160" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990160">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>no doubt it will leak to reddit/r/rust too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990302" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990302">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>once RFC is merged, or more likely after our first milestone, I figured we would start posting to the main rust blog with progress updates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990333" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990333">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/268952-edition/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post/near/226990146">said</a>:</p>
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<p>kind of telling "rust contributors" a bit about the 2021 edition</p>
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<p>and the process we are following</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990340" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990340">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think of the process as:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990351">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
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<li>We have some milestones by which things must be ready to be included</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990420">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., must have an RFC by this time, impl by that time, crater run by that time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990453">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
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<li>There is a spreadsheet where people can figure stuff out</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990501">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Come talk on <a class="stream" data-stream-id="268952" href="/#narrow/stream/268952-edition">#edition</a> with questions or thoughts</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990515">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>As we said, I don't really see this as a "call for people to submit ideas"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990548" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990548">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I do kind of want people to raise ideas if there is some long-standing thing we're missing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990569">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., I still have to follow up on <a class="stream-topic" data-stream-id="268952" href="/#narrow/stream/268952-edition/topic/never.20type">#edition &gt; never type</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226990925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226990925">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's fine. Sounds like a good idea. Let me rewrite the post then. When do you want to have this out?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226991317" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226991317">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>next week sometime?</p>



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<p>I'll let you rewrite before I do anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226991357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226991357">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was going to edit the spreadsheet a bit with some proposals around milestones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/226991366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#226991366">(Feb 19 2021 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can discuss on monday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227311395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227311395">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> I reworked the blog post: <a href="https://hackmd.io/@ryanlevick/S1glZd-fO">https://hackmd.io/@ryanlevick/S1glZd-fO</a> Let me know what you think of the new structure and if you're happy with it, I'll finish the todos. The post is pretty short which I think is a good thing <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227317869" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> bstrie <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227317869">(Feb 22 2021 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would prefer if the title were something like "Announcing the plan for the Rust 2021 Edition". The current headline makes it seem as though the 2021 Edition is about to imminently release, which is liable to result in mental whiplash</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227944828" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227944828">(Feb 26 2021 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> totally forgot about this!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227944829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227944829">(Feb 26 2021 at 15:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>skimming now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227944931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227944931">(Feb 26 2021 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>i think you're missing one thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227944934" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227944934">(Feb 26 2021 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>the structure looks great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227944951" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227944951">(Feb 26 2021 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>the deadline probably needs to include 01 April -- RFCs written</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227944956" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227944956">(Feb 26 2021 at 15:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you want help to finish up?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227951593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227951593">(Feb 26 2021 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>If you want to ship it this weekend I'll need help. Otherwise I can get it done early on Monday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/227955354" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#227955354">(Feb 26 2021 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think monday is fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228213873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228213873">(Mar 01 2021 at 11:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> the blog post is ready for final review.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228213909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228213909">(Mar 01 2021 at 11:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="310399">@Mara</span> FYI ^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228216928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228216928">(Mar 01 2021 at 11:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> nice. will look at it after lunch.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228230145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Mara <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228230145">(Mar 01 2021 at 13:35)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> looks great!</p>
<p>Wondering if the three examples (prelude, capture rules, remove static mut) are the right ones to highlight like this. Especially removal of <code>static mut</code> is still a bit unclear, and might not happen. The examples mentioned under 'Other' on the other hand are most definitely going to happen (the panic stuff is already implemented and already has an active lint, and cargo's <code>resolver = "2"</code> is also already usable). So it might make sense to swap some of the examples around.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228230377" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228230377">(Mar 01 2021 at 13:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe <code>resolver = "2"</code> is the best one since it's really just a new default. The entire feature is available on all editions, it just changes the default on the new edition. This explains nicely the principle of wanting to give all editions the features if we can and limiting edition differences to the absolute bare minimum.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228252015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228252015">(Mar 01 2021 at 15:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> will read now!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228252720" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228252720">(Mar 01 2021 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>I added one note</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228252724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228252724">(Mar 01 2021 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>As we approach these deadlines, we'll be narrowing down the list of proposed changes to those items that have made active progress.</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228252744" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228252744">(Mar 01 2021 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>and tweaked a few other minor things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228252746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228252746">(Mar 01 2021 at 15:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>but overall, I like it!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228258979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228258979">(Mar 01 2021 at 16:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would be good to emphasize for the not-yet-approved changes (e.g., in particular prelude) that this blog post is not an indicator of decisions being made</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228259030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228259030">(Mar 01 2021 at 16:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't want people to think we're bypassing the RFC consensus process</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228259224" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228259224">(Mar 01 2021 at 16:23)</a>:</h4>
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<p>It is no longer possible to introduce features for inclusion in Rust 2021 which have not yet been discussed at all. Of course, anyone can already open an issue or RFC for a change to be included in the next edition of Rust following Rust 2021.</p>
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<p>I would like to <em>avoid</em> people discussing things for edition-next right now, to be honest, since it seems less urgent and I want us to get 2021 buttoned down before we get into that too much.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228259565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228259565">(Mar 01 2021 at 16:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe something like: "There's not sufficient bandwidth to consider ideas that haven't been discussed at all yet, but we're excited to hear them. That said, our bandwidth is limited, and we want to focus on the 2021 edition for the next few months at least, so please know that the teams are unlikely to be able to give new proposals for future editions consideration in the next month or two at least"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228408476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228408476">(Mar 02 2021 at 13:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>The pull request is up: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/blog.rust-lang.org/pull/790">https://github.com/rust-lang/blog.rust-lang.org/pull/790</a></p>



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<p>It's the same text as from a day or two ago with a few changes to address <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span>'s feedback</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228517763" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228517763">(Mar 03 2021 at 01:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> Quick note: I agree with the statement in the <code>static mut</code> issue, which states that we need a concrete proposal in place before we consider deprecating <code>static mut</code>.</p>



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<p>I don't think we should say in the blog post that that's something we're considering doing, when it's not close to the point where we should commit to that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228692145" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228692145">(Mar 04 2021 at 00:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Edition 2051: we <em>might</em> finally deprecate <code>static mut</code> this year</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228750810" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228750810">(Mar 04 2021 at 10:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> shall we try to push this out today?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228754115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228754115">(Mar 04 2021 at 11:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> let's!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228754461" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228754461">(Mar 04 2021 at 11:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224872">@rylev</span> I renamed it to today, shall I publish?</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> sounds good to me!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/268952-edition%202021/topic/Announcement%20blog%20post/near/228827096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/268952-edition-2021/topic/Announcement.20blog.20post.html#228827096">(Mar 04 2021 at 18:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>merged</p>



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